I have little interest in the many podcasts that are just mainstream media distributed differently. Someone recently recommended Note To Self. The content was interesting but the jingles, editing, actuality, all felt intrusive. I wanted to be trusted to listen to the conversation. Sadly all BBC podcasts are like this. The perils of professionalism.
To me the pleasure of listening to podcasts is being able to hear smart people chatting about things I am interested in, taking their time, working things out, not trying too hard. It’s very different.